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The opinions didn’t matter. What mattered were the reviews and the refunds, both of which are actions.Â
It’s pretty sad to see people saying that to each other. When those opinions do matter and game devs do take them into account. If you don’t voice your opinion nothing will happen.
I think this was more a of situation where the execs had no idea what middle management was doing. The top level only got a clue after the news literially landed on their doorstep in a newspaper.
They’re just out of touch. So banging pots and pans sometimes scare the middle management suits away.
There’s no way the people at the top knew how many restrictions their own services had. They moved to PC to widen the audience not reduce it to Playstation levels or limit it to that audience. They literally hire people to write reports for them they don’t go out of their way to look.
Fanboys hate this.
I don’t think Sony ackowledged this. They just delayed it.
The refunds are what mattered. Reviews and opinions will **never** matter. The only thing that matters is money. And Sony listened to the refund requests.
Complain all you want, if you don’t hit them in the money, they will **never** listen.
It’s a small victory, but from my experience the corporations will continue to push and test their luck no matter what. It’s impossible for the public to always have successful outrages and eventually the status quo will shift, as people get older and generations change.
We already have a whole generation to which shit like lootboxes and battlepasses have been normalized on.
Shame there wasn’t backlash of this caliber during HL2 release
Now you bend over and go play the game. If you really wanted to do something smart you would refund it or stop playing the game. People who continue playing this game are no smarter than a pigeon and are doing exactly what Sony wants. Sheep.
Sadly it’s the exception, not the rule
I think the vast majority of people just can’t take turbulence.
They are the people who keep their heads low at work.
They want benevolent masters who would treat them well out of the kindness of their hearts.
Things are the way they are for a reason.
Poor devs, Sony fucking them over like this. I do hope it will recover with this, but already I see the hype moving on. Sony once again proving their leadership is ridicously incompetent.
Yes, stop complaining and do something.
Complaints are meaningless – the mass refunds were what did it
Only pussies have said these words in the last 72 hours and pussies never last
They don’t… to a point. when your blunder starts showing in the mainstream you have no choice but do something about it
People are just crybaby because they are too lazy to use their account for a game.Â
Now what we need is to cause Steam to stop forcing us using their DRM and their account.Â
I seriously hope that all who jumped the gun and immediately refounded the game – without having any patience to wait 2-3 weeks to see what happens – lose their account and all the progress…
I mean there’s a difference between complaining about a gun being too strong or a bug that is bothersome and Sony doing something that results in players from hundreds of countries no longer being able to play the game. Maybe the devs will hear you eventually but when you instantly lose 35+% of your playerbase the change wasn’t really fueled by your opinion but by how much bad pr the company is going to receive and how much money will be lost
I got hit with so many comments that were along the lines of “it’s over, give up, the corporations have won, we’ve lost,” when I’d complain about the required PSN account. I hope those people can learn from this, that it’s only over when we give in to the apathy.
And its true, they hardly matters and a single company hearing for the first time in videogame history wont change that they never Heard before
If this shit was made by ANY OTHER COMPANY, they would have shelved the franchise forever and said they wont release more games of that IP alleging “Lack of interest”….. I mean the have done that even with mildly successful franchises before
This happens all the time on basically all gaming subs. People for some very strange reason (to me) love defending multi billion dollar companie trying to fuck them over.
I’m just hoping people don’t go back to the game immediately thinking this is the end of it.
If we keep telling everyone that voicing their opinion doesn’t matter eventually it is just going to lead to people as a whole choosing to eliminate those that make it not matter. Discourse is necessary for life.
Individual opinions generally don’t matter. But collective action on the level we saw from this community does matter and will change things.Â
Change is really just a bunch of individual people deciding their voice needs to be heard.
The best example recently I can think of where this worked was Total Warhammer 3. They launched a crap DLC at an inflated price and it got review bombed. The typical idiot manager dug in and tried to be a dick. The negative response kept coming, now they’ve overhauled that DLC with more content and released an actually good out the box DLC.
It doesn’t matter what the issue is, there will always be contrarians defending things
Yup. Same assholes talking people out of voting in real life. It’s the sort of stupidity that’s only true if you believe it and don’t participate.
Well, killing your biggest game by a flick of a wrist should really alarm you.
I was a guilty party in this, but only because I just feel like review bombing the hard working developers for their passion felt wrong. It worked though so there you go! I didn’t realise at the time some people would have been unable to make a PS account and not allowed to play a game they paid for, which now being aware of that, I would of been with everyone.
Anyone that says that is an idiot or a corporate shill (paid or otherwise).
There is however something to be said for complaining *on the right channels*, e.g. user reviews.