#salarynegotiation #recruitment #jobsearchtips #knowyourworth
Don’t be like the recruiter I encountered today.
Have you ever felt belittled or undervalued during a job interview or salary negotiation? I certainly have. Let me tell you about a recent experience I had with a recruiter who tried to dictate what my salary expectations should be.
Recruiter: “what do you earn?”
Me: “$X if I was full-time.”
Recruiter: “that’s a lot. That’s really high for your field.”
Me: “well, I’ve been doing this for 15 years and work in the most expensive city in the country.”
Recruiter: “I’m going to have a hard time getting you that much. I’ve been a recruiter a long time, and that salary is really high.” [it’s high in a vacuum, but it’s not remotely unusual given the circumstances]
Me: “…well, that’s what I earn.”
Guess which recruiter I’m not working with (hint: it’s the one who tried to make me feel bad about my expected salary).
This dude was trying to mansplain what my salary expectations SHOULD be despite the fact that a) I currently earn this rate, b) I’ve been doing this a long time, too, so I know what ppl earn, and c) other recruiters don’t bat an eye at the salary.
Feeling frustrated and disrespected in situations like these is unfortunately not uncommon. However, there are ways to handle such encounters and ensure you are advocating for yourself effectively. Here are some practical solutions to navigate similar situations in the future and stand your ground:
Know Your Worth:
– Research industry standards for your position and experience level
– Consider additional factors such as location and cost of living when determining your salary expectations
– Trust your own knowledge and expertise in your field
Communicate Effectively:
– Clearly articulate your reasons for your salary expectations
– Express confidence in your abilities and the value you bring to the table
– Don’t be afraid to assert yourself and set boundaries if necessary
Work with Supportive Professionals:
– Seek out recruiters or hiring managers who respect your worth and understand your value
– Surround yourself with individuals who empower and encourage you in your job search
– Choose to work with professionals who appreciate your skills and experience
Remember, you are in control of your career and worth. Don’t let anyone diminish your value or make you feel inadequate. Stay true to your worth, stand your ground, and find professionals who appreciate and respect your talents. You deserve to be recognized for your skills and compensated accordingly. Don’t be like the recruiter I encountered today – be confident, advocate for yourself, and know your worth.
So, I don’t get it. People here always complain that recruiters are honest with them.
Well, here’s an honest recruiter.
Recruiters are salespeople.
130k paralegal in the Bay area talking to someone in Texas. Just to put numbers with the arrogance.
How is this mansplaining?
I had an HR person call me out of the blue and later try to shame me for expecting the SAME salary while he and his co-workers volunteer for a pay reduction to save the company. Hard pass…
Certain group of recruiters gets REALLY salty when you make significantly more than they do, because they think their caste is above yours. Which is why I won’t work with them. Waste of time at best.
That recruiter SUCKS…blink and move on. You deserve better
When I finished my STEM PhD. and decided I wanted out of Academia, I was contacted by a recruiter. Told him what I was looking for and said I want 50k€. He said there is no way I would get that much. He then asked if I’d work for Company X, and I said absolutely, it was actually one of my top choices if I’d find a matching position. He then thought about it for a bit but said, “No, this won’t work. Sorry, I can’t help you, ” and I thanked him for his time and never talked to him again.
So anyways, I applied to Company X by myself and got hired for closer to 60k. Could have been his deal, but he was a dumb idiot.
Part-time hourly rate does not scale to a full-time rate. There’s a reason consultant hourly rates are always higher than full time. Part-time means you don’t have health insurance, you pay your own taxes, and receive none of the benefits of working at a company.
I’ve learned over time all recruiters are not created equal. In fact, I’d say most recruiters are terrible at their jobs and don’t really care about matching the right people to the right companies. They go for quantity. I now have my go to recruiters that I will always use (either to find me help or if I need a job) and the other 98% can pound sand.
based only on what you’ve typed here it sounds more like this person is trying to tell you this position isn’t for you, IE it’s beneath you as opposed to trying “mansplain” something. . .
All you tech people, get ready for a major reset in your salary. What you been getting paid is not sustainable, I hope you saved majority of the money you earned so far because look for companies to OS more. Sooner you accept the truth, better prepared you will be.
No need to be sexist and say mansplaining.
Blast the person and company.
This may be a sign that the actual position was below the job description hence the pay budget was low. The recruiter didn’t know that the hiring company was trying to trick overqualified people into this position by intentionally setting high expectations in the job spec, you may have dodged a bullet there.
..or the recruiter may be genuinely out of touch with the market rates in different locations.
Recruiter here:
1: I never tell people that they are earning way to high in either salary or day rate. If that’s what you’re getting paid then fair play to you
2: if I can’t help them, then I tell them that exactly and state reasons
So I get why you’re annoyed, but just bare in mind they are probably just being honest in stating that they don’t see roles or work roles at that level – nothing wrong with that. They probably work with clients in states and cities with lower cost of living and thus your numbers seem a bit outlandish. I wouldn’t take any offence, though you are right in not working with that person, they’re not going to be able to help you 😂😂
It’s too high because he’s getting a cut. Companies won’t pay twice your current salary just so a recruiter can leach off them. Well, not **your** (OP) salary.
lost me at mansplain…
What do you mean by “$x IF I was full time”.
Does that mean you are currently not full time? Are you getting paid a premium for part time with no benefits or pto?
Maybe there was a disconnect in calculating on both sides.
Never be like these recruiters:
OP: “my salary is this”
Recruiter “I’m going to have a hard time getting you that much”
OP: “😡😡😡😡😡😡😡”
I hope you’re reading recruiters: next time just tell OP you can do that then just low ball at the end