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Hey fellow mid-level managers! π Have any of you been in a situation where you’re considering leaving your current job for a new opportunity but have concerns about reaching out to HR? I’m in a bit of a pickle and could use some advice.
Here’s my scenario:
– I work for a F500 company with a huge employee base.
– I’ve been offered a new job and want to confirm some important details with HR before accepting.
– Specifically, I want to clarify things like tuition reimbursement and stock vesting to avoid any surprises.
My main question is: if I contact HR, will they notify my manager? π€ I want to tread carefully and not jump the gun before making a final decision.
Any tips or insights on how to handle this delicate situation would be greatly appreciated! Let’s help each other out and share our experiences. π€
HR is not your friend. They will always act in the interest of the company. That is my 2 cents.
HR isn’t there to help and will definitely tell.
Why can’t you look things up yourself, or just ask as a curious question and not connected to a job move. Don’t talk hypotheticals, just ask for a document with the exact terms of your exact situation. Blame it on a new financial advisor or something.
HR reps are the biggest gossip people in the company if they are not legally bound to keep their mouths shut. They will spill the beans at first opportunity.
HR will notify your manager immediately after the meeting. Rest assured of it.
Don’t risk it, HR might notify your manager; ask the new employer’s HR instead
HR job is to protect the company. They will narc you out but they also don’t want to see a person they put six figures Into walk out the door…
This is more subtle than “HR works for the company’s interest.”. They certainly do. But they are likely overworked employees like everyone else just trying to do their job. They are people who generally got into HR because they thought they could help people. And they generally will if they can. Sure, there are power-trippers. But they exist everywhere. Note that if there are rules, they will follow them. That is also in the nature of HR (and many other shops as well). You don’t see many “hold my beer” creative types in support functions. But when you do, it is gold.
You need the information and I understand how the info can be buried. HR has the knowledge. You can ask HR general questions for informational purposes. And you can have a cover story, but they are going to figure it out. They have seen these questions before. The question is whether they will care. That is 59/50.
They are thousands of miles away. There is no “critical person is potentially leaving button.”. That sends a signal out. And if there were, the best reaction to keep you on board is probably the carrot, not the stick. Realizing that is also 50/50. They have the stick in the non-vested stock options and the potential tuition payback agreements.
Finally, how will your boss react? Is your boss the petty type? It is your boss going tovsift-sell you as well? If the goal is keeping you in the fold for the long term, showing that the company is an ass is a sure way to drive additional people out the door. Of course, that doesn’t stop it from happening. So what is your assessment if your boss if HR tattles?
I mean, I think you have to. Plus, maybe HR will consider with mgmt & execs a counter offer. Possibly not, but you are doing the right thing to cover youself. Don’t wanna get hit with a 30k loss in the situation.
I would just email asking for a meeting, then towards the end say you’ll consider things but are likely taking the new role, and at your level I’m thinking you’re giving quite a bit of notice, right? Not just 2 weeks.
Anyway, at the end just ask they not mention things yet, and leave it at that. Again, a second goal of the meeting is to see if they’ll keep you, even just see what the counter is. (Most ppl here recommend never take the counter, but I don’t know your situation & if you like the company, etc)
Personally I would share my news with the manager and the skip manager. Once they know, I would notify the HR.
If you do it in reverse, your manager is still going to ask you why you are leaving or some form of communication to figure out the logistics of you leaving on good terms. Itβs tough but doing it the right way is the best approach.
Hope this helps!