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Hey there fellow engineers! 👋 I’m facing a bit of a dilemma and could really use some input from this awesome community. So, here’s the situation: I’ve been an engineer for 10 years now and will soon hit my 5-year mark as a manager. My wife just landed a new job in the NJ/NY area, which means we’ll be relocating from IL.
I have the option to work remotely from IL, but it might be a bit tricky to manage things from afar, plus the living expenses won’t be adjusted. So, I’m wondering if it’s worth starting to look for a new job in the area given the current market conditions. So, my burning question is: How is the market for engineering managers in the NJ/NY area right now?
Here are a few possible solutions that I’ve been thinking about:
– Researching job listings in the area to gauge demand
– Reaching out to local networking groups or industry professionals for insights
– Considering adjusting my current work setup to better accommodate the move
Any advice, personal experiences, or insights you can share would be greatly appreciated! Let’s help each other navigate the ever-changing job market landscape. 🔍💼 #CareerAdvice #Networking #JobHunt
Nearly non existent. Managers I know who have been laid-off are either still unemployed or working as mid-level engineers.
If you think dev-bloat got bad in 2020-2023, imagine how many people ended up in manager roles just due to empire growth
I’d rather be an engineer looking for a job than an engineering manager looking for a job.
“Managers” are mostly dead weight and they are the first ones to get cut. You would have to have the tech industry BOOMING for engineer “managers” to be sought after again.
Not a great market. I was job hunting earlier this year following a layoff in my org and it took quite a few more interviews to land a role than previous job searches. There seems to be a lot more competition for engineering management roles at or below the director level than there has been in the past, especially in remote organizations. For reference, I’m also at that “around a decade in the industry” experience level. I was applying to both management and senior engineering roles and got a much better hit rate for roles which had a significant IC component. Most places seem to be expecting their senior contributors to handle most of the day to day management tasks at the team level based on my limited exposure. I did end up finding a management role that was a good fit, they do exist, but I’d prepare yourself to consider a wider range of possible roles including those more on the technical leadership side of the spectrum.
Rougher. Even in good times a manager jobs are harder to find and get.
Manager falls in the Senior+ zone and those are harder and fewer openings.
In theory, managers can be value add, but I’ve never seen it. The more you have, the less value they offer, eventually going negative. Usually managers use their discretionary power to promote the preservation and conservation of managers. It seems like interest rates are causing upper to turn on middle.
The market is not good, but there’s a huge difference between ‘the market’ and the market *for you*. You won’t know what happens unless you apply.
I’d at least apply to a few places and see. You either get a better job, or become happier at yours 🙂