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Hey everyone! 👋 Does anyone else feel like the doom and gloom around here is a bit overdone? I mean, sure, the market may not be as great as it once was, but let’s not forget that there are still opportunities out there for those willing to hustle! Here’s my take on it:
– While the job market may be tougher, there are still plenty of people out there job hopping and increasing their total compensation. 📈
– I know tons of folks who have gone from a $90k TC to over $200k, and they’re not even superstars in their field.
– Despite the challenges, my LinkedIn feed is filled with success stories of people landing new positions.
– Let’s keep our chins up, stay positive, and continue grinding towards our goals. It’s all about perspective and perseverance! 💪
What are your thoughts on this? How have you been navigating the job market lately? Let’s share our experiences and offer some tips to help each other out. Together, we can overcome the challenges and thrive in this ever-changing industry! 😊 #PositiveMindset #CareerSuccess
>why do the majority have opinion X when my anecdotal experience Y is different?
Applied to a job recently and got an interview a few weeks later and have had more recruiters hitting me up on LI and email as well.
People come here to complain and ask for advice, it’s no surprise it skews towards them.
Senior level roles are in high demand still, probably due to huge amounts of technical debt and overly ambitious projects managers. It’s mostly the junior market that is suffering at the moment. In Chicago for embedded jobs, there are 20 times as many available jobs for seniors than there are for juniors. Mid level roles are less common than seniors but still present. The added gloom is that the junior level roles have a ridiculous number of applicants.
It’s not so much job hopping that isn’t happening as it is first time developers getting not getting hired. I have been looking to job hop as a junior for a few months now and find almost nothing for higher pay. The re-org my company did moved me from a R&D role to a software verification / validation role. Literally moving me from one of the highest paying areas that I already have experience in, into one of the lowest paying ones in which I have no experience.
I imagine many juniors are going through the same thing right now. Just pure frustration. Though being on here I feel lucky to even have a job and am glad I can ride out this market, my company had every chance to hire someone in the last year to fill my current role but never even posted the application. They just decided to shut down all R&D and move everyone around.
I think it’s the opposite. I have been unemployed and looking for a job for 1 year, with only occasional action. I know 3 other engineers who have been looking that long. I also know fuckloads of people who have been laid off in the past 2 years. Most of them have landed.
Then I come to LinkedIn only to have people proclaim it’s not that bad. Well, it is that bad for me.
I really don’t know what to believe.
I’m a senior+ engineer with a couple brand-name tech companies in my resume and 10-ish years of experience. My LinkedIn inbox has been absolutely popping off.
Just to bring some positivity. Started a job recently I really do not like. Started applying to new jobs a little over a month ago. Done multiple interviews and I’m in two final rounds and expecting another final round as well. It’s hard but it’s still doable
Depends on location, in NYC area market never really cooled off. Atleast for mid and senior level
And how many of these people you’re seeing find jobs are junior level/new grads? Most of the doom and gloom I’m seeing is “the entry level market is cooked”, not seeing a whole lot of senior level doomers.
This sub is a huge echo chamber of gloom and doom, and has been since I first made the awful decision to follow it 10+ years ago (on an older account)
People come here to bitch and moan, and it’s largely filled with people with little to no experience/students/etc.
I only have about 3 YOE and that’s probably more than a significant portion of this sub
This sub is an echo chamber. People who interview poorly or have some other issue preventing them from getting a job will make up a large amount of the users here.
If you don’t think its doom and gloom, go apply yourself.
People that can get interviews and jobs aren’t posting here.
Define “tons” ? Like a couple of people ? That is not statistics, just anecdotal experiences.
It is a fact that the market is much less frothy than 2 years ago.
> Just seems like the doom and gloom is a bit overstated here.
There are different levels of difficulty to keep in mind. Some people are playing on hardmode and so the market is obviously a lot worse for them.
Hardmode situations may include scenarios like:
– Not living in a tech area, and not being able or willing to relocate (i.e. remote-only positions)
– Having a disability or criminal record
– Having a resume gap (e.g. medical, stay-at-home-parent, etc.)
– Spent too many years in a niche area of tech that is no longer hiring
– New grad with little experience
If none of the above apply to you, then the market is probably not bad at all. I’m guessing the majority of the people you’re thinking of who have hopped around to triple their TC are not playing on hardmode. (Nothing against them ofc, just trying to paint a picture here of how drastically different people’s experiences can be in the same market).
I think its down to the individual, I also know that the market outside of the US is much tougher for devs than within it.
Just my opinion but most people are dumb and/or lazy. You see more people failing today because the market is more saturated than it has been in the last 8-10 years. More people in a field means more dumb and/or lazy people in said field. They go online and complain. If you’re confident in yourself and your skills and have good people skills I see no reason why you should have trouble finding some type of job somewhere.
I see plenty of job postings but very few that are over 200k and near none that are over 250k. I’ve got 4yoe but don’t live in Seattle/SF anymore and everywhere wants to do geo based pay for remote roles. Seems impossible to get meaningfully over the 200k mark if you’re not there or NY
I’m thinking that most people that are having trouble live far away from major cities and are only applying to remote positions. I live in a major city, and there are tons of in office positions being posted on LinkedIn daily. Most of them require a BS, and say no visa sponsorship.