Are you struggling to find a job after graduating with a master’s degree?
As a recent master’s graduate who has been unemployed since August 2022, are you finding it challenging to secure a job due to lack of work experience?
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Inadequate Work Experience Feedback
– Do you keep receiving feedback from job interviews that you need more work experience?
– Are you frustrated that your internship and pre-master’s experience isn’t being considered?
– Have you showcased your projects on your resume, but feel they don’t reflect real-life work problems?
No Opportunities for Learning and Training
– Are you facing difficulties in finding opportunities where companies are willing to train you?
– Does it seem like no one wants to teach you, even for junior positions?
– Are you feeling discouraged because job postings require experience in areas you haven’t worked in before?
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If you’re feeling stuck in your job search and unsure of what to do next, read on for some valuable insights and suggestions to improve your chances of landing a job.
It’s psychological torture to expect people to go through these systems for the resources they require to live.
Yeah, I hear you. It’s stupid. I basically support mass shootings at this point because the world is so critically unfair, and I never cease to find more examples of this at every second of every day. People going postal is a completely rational response to the input being given to them.
It’s tyrannically oppressive.
When I was hiring I always took like 3 months for training for a junior and a month for a senior. After that for a year we still did regular check ups if everyrhing was ok.
I also had a set of external courses I sent new hires on. Its expensive but hiring someone to just let them drown and the person quitting is so much more expensive.
Rephrase your project description to sound like they are professional projects for companies. If you did any projects during your masters, show them as full time projects. Even drop your masters from resume if your undergrad is relevant. In this economy 2 years of experience can have more weight than masters.
Fake it till you make it.
I know this is not a good advice but if your life depends on it you got to do what you got to do.
There was a long thread on this on Twitter the other week. The conclusion was yes, no one is willing to train anymore. There are too many people looking for work that they don’t need to hire someone they need to train. They can just low ball someone with experience.
It’s awful. Honestly… here’s my advice. Work your contacts and find people who you know who are in positions of power. At the end of the day, it’s always who you know. I’ve never found a job where I just applied to some place without knowing a person at the actual company.
It’s an incredibly stupid cycle that companies put potential candidates through. Here’s the reason WHY they do this:
A company that decides to hire you on and are willing to train you to do the job they hire you for is worried that their investment in time and resources will end up at a competitor willing to offer more money and benefits by hiring you.
If Company A offers you $25 per hour to do the job of Analysis Analyst, offers to train you to do the job, and offers to pay for your certifications and education to do the job, the expectation is that they’ll get a return on their investment. Let’s say that within six months, you accomplish all of their education and certification goals. Company B is looking for an Analysis Analyst with your experience and certifications, and is willing to pay you $30 an hour plus better benefits. From your perspective, you’re growing in your career. From Company B’s perspective, all’s fair in love and war. From Company A’s perspective, you’re a traitor and a scumbag (you’re not ‘loyal’ for what they gave you).
So what do companies do? Be the ones that poach employees from other companies so that they don’t have to spend the resources to level you up.
Hiring managers are lazy. If you lack one trainable skill, but excel elsewhere, you’re passed on. It’s tough out here even for seasoned workers. But I agree, nobody wants to provide OTJ training anymore. Probably because it doesn’t make the company money.
As a recruiter, I can also say it’s a lazy/scared recruiter.
I’ve had manager tell me they want someone “almost promotable” from entry level. Total crap, I push back hard and even pull HR in for that. It’s a manager trying to find a cheap person with experience that will accept a lower paying role due to life situations. Horrible managers, no one should work for them.
Would a dept of transportation job from your state be an option to start?
‘if you know how to do the job the minute you walk in, you’re not a unicorn. you’re a security risk. how do you know our procedures?’ used to be the standard mentality.
now?
candidates are supposed to know every network resource, procedure, password and file location. you’re supposed to know which Active Directory groups you need for access to your role.
don’t know those? oh, maybe you’re not a good fit.
I want to self-delete.
What industry?
Imagine being a corporate trainer.
Nobody wants to hire us either.
Agreed. I have completely given up trying to find jobs in my field. Even outbound sales call centres want outbound sales call centre experience now, even cat supplies retailers want cat supplies retail experience now. If you worked in a dog supplies retailer, sorry you aren’t eligible.
Unfortunately there is no such thing as “no experience jobs” anymore. Companies will post a position and claim to train you if you have no experience but will ultimately grab someone who has experience because the current economy gives them a HUGE selection. It’s an employer’s market now.
This is why people do internships in college. If you didn’t do an internship, you’re pretty much screwed. It’s a shitty system, but it is what it is
>NOBDOY wants to teach me tho
It’s not their responsibility to teach you or to provide you with experience. Employers want to get the best possible candidate for their money. Nobody owes you anything.
People with years of experience are now having to go to junior level positions as we’ve all been laid off and are taking what we can get. We come with minimal need for training and can basically start doing the job quickly. Unfortunately that’s where the market is at right now.
Unfortunately the timing right now is really bad and because you have a lot of us 20-25 years out from our masters looking for work and we can’t get hired either. It’s a garbage economy right now. Keep trying. Take anything that is at least somewhat related in your general field to stay afloat and relevant. This is going to get worse before it gets better. No matter what though- fresh out of school- it’s always the issue of needing experience, but no one giving the chance- it’s just exceptionally harder right now. You’re not alone.
We live in a piraye economy whete consummate robber barons have grown so used to stealing the crops of their neighbours that now they’ve all forgotten how to plant things for themselves.
The fruits are running out, the fields are fallow. And the robbers are starving in an entitled fury that an economy built on plundering isn’t sustainable
They won’t train anyone as long as there is a large enough candidate pool they can hire from that needs not much more than onboarding.
yeah, its familiar. Way too familiar.
I used to be a freelancer, but I got to the point that I kind of wanted a stable income and dental benefits, and there wasn’t much chance of that without a degree. Got a degree, stratospheric grades, future academic leader, yadda yadda, but I couldn’t afford to do that. But hey, I had the degree, I had lots of work experience and…
oh, apparently that doesn’t count. Nah, you either need to move to a big city and work for several years as an admin assistant, or preferably spend a long time interning. With a second job. In a big expensive city. I also has a sick partner who couldn’t really work, so neither of those options were actually possible. So I ended up doing labour jobs. Went to grad school and was told “oh wow, all that work experience will make you a prime candidate when you graduate.” And…it didn’t. At all.
Now I am doing a variant of what I did at age 18, in an effort to “earn valuable experience” while paying for a lot of degree debt. (Now granted, I have a title and everything, but my day? Same shit I did when I was 18)
And will this job count as valuable experience? Maybe not. It’s not exactly what other job descriptions want. And it is for a small organisation, which is something else employers turn up their noses at. (“oh you need valuable experience in a much bigger company to show your capacity for growth)
If companies can low ball very experienced workers with a junior or entry level salary, why would they want to pay the same to hire someone with less to no experience at all?
Not saying the companies are right, they are definitely messed up and it seems like we have to endure this kind of madness until the market turns around.
Local rail company has a trainee position going with 5 years exp required. Pay is ridiculous for the role but what the heck do they think a trainee is.
Sometimes, it’s OK to stretch the truth. Don’t get in over your head, but massage titles, things you’ve done, etc. And while interviewing, find free courses on the topic. When you’re ready to work, say “oh, this seems a bit different” to learn on the job. Employers lie. So why can’t we?
Agreed.
WTF is a Junior position supposed to be nowadays ?
I’m often told during HR interviews that for a Junior position in their company, they expect it to be challenging for the new hire, but they provide learning resources and a mentor to support them. However, the reasons for my rejections seem to contradict that statement. 🤦♂️
And that’s not just me. I see a lot of fully competent hires, people with very good soft skills and hard skill.
All of them being rejected due to lack of experience especially for Junior positions.
I’m just mind blown as to how absurd is all of this.