Have you caught anyone juggling two jobs?🤔
Hey there! I’m genuinely curious – just wanted to ask. No need for any negativity, I promise!
#TwoJobs #SideHustle #WorkLifeBalance
Reason for asking:
I’m interested in hearing your stories about people working multiple jobs.
Why it matters:
- Understanding different work situations
- Exploring work-life balance challenges
I just don’t understand taking anything but a production focused mindset anymore. Granted, there are a ton of positions where a butt in the seat is the production (a receptionist being available to greet and direct anyone who comes into the building comes to mind, for example), but if the work is getting done does anything else really matter? It shouldn’t, unless someone is more focused on control than the actual work
If I found out I would be pissed that someone had to work two jobs to live.
I was a bit surprised to learn that one of my Oracle developers had a second fulltime job. Their performance was barely adequate and it made better sense once we learned about the second job. Unfortunately for the employee, the other job was a prime contractor to the USAF. They somehow learned of his position with us and called to let us know. We terminated the employee immediately, as did the other employer.
I don’t care if someone has two jobs if they are doing this job. If someone can get their work done and have time to moonlight during work hours, then I blame the manager for under capacitizing their employee
Kind of? They lasted 3 days because they thought the position was remote (they never asked)
When they started, and we showed them to their cube…and their desktop computer, things quickly unraveled.
Apparently their *husband* was overemployed and they were coached to interview well.
After calling out for the next two days, they admitted that the plan was to add this job to the existing two concurrent 9-5 IT support positions the husband already worked.
And the real one. He called his cell phone from his desk phone so his status in the call software was always “on the phone with a customer” The call recordings were of him in meetings with his other company lol. Zero Idea why he didn’t mute both sides? I released the employee, and the VP just *had* to ask what he was thinking. He just gave some lame-ass excuse about the job being hard, and training being hard etc etc. never admitted that he was working two jobs at the same time. Again, the call recordings were clear as a bell.
When I was fully remote in a different role, I did. I don’t have the time now or I would 😂
I was an HR Director who doubled as an airline chat support agent. The chat support was so damn easy that I can honestly say my quality of work didn’t suffer in either capacity.
Now I have two of my direct reports who work that same role while they work with me. As long as their work for my team doesn’t suffer, I don’t care how many jobs they have.
I’d rather them work two remote jobs that have the same or similar hours versus going to a second full time job after they worked all day. Fuck that.
I swear one of my coworkers has 2 jobs, he doesn’t show online until around 10 (he’s east coast, I’m central) takes forever to reply, and just doesn’t seem engaged. But I’m an IC, they don’t pay me enough to care, and I’m a lead but not his lead. I haven’t heard of any escalations from his sow, even at our lead meetings so he either is, and is still getting his work done efficiently, or he isn’t and just looks lazy from my pov 🤭
I work for a municipality and I caught an employee trying to get paid COVID-19 FFCRA while working full-time for another city. It didn’t end well with either of his employers.
We caught an engineer at a semiconductor company working three concurrent jobs San Jose.
He ultimately got fired on the same day at all three companies. It was pretty wild.
yes, we are fully remote so it’s not crazy to see. our company policy is that you need to get HR approval and we don’t allow hours to overlap.
I personally don’t care, as long as it doesn’t impact their performance or they’re not stealing company info or clients… It doesn’t make sense that our higher ups can have other outside activities (on a board, professor, consultant) and hold their current roles, but we don’t allow our less senior roles to do the same. But my company has a different perspective 🤷
We have caught some people because they were being dumb, like posting on LinkedIn (I personally don’t say anything if I see something on LinkedIn). However, these were situations where there was suspicion they were taking company clients and data, so it was pretty bad.
I had to let someone go, who in hindsight, was likely overemployed. He was refusing to do certain aspects of the job which were clearly outlined within in the JD (taking client calls) and kept coming up with excuses to not do these duties despite our best efforts to give him the tools he claimed he needed
He’d just keep changing the goalpost. Eventually we had to let him go and like a week later it dawned on me that he likely didn’t want to perform those duties because he wouldn’t be able to work another job while doing it.
It was frustrating because I have no problem with overemployment as long as deliverables are met and I tried SO hard to help him despite not personally liking him.
Yes, several times. In the dumbest ways, too. One sent an email to internal contacts using her other company’s account, which included her title in the email signature. Another one didn’t mute himself on a Zoom call while he spoke on a Zoom call at his other company. Others were less obvious – big swaths of time where they’d be mysteriously unavailable, inability to meet deadlines etc. and they were caught after investigation.
We had a sales guy working for a competitor. Found out because there wasn’t enough mileage on his car to account for his calls.
At my last job as Ops Manager for public transit, we had a new driver that took an overnight shift driving a demand-response paratransit type service. We were stoked because it was hard to fill due to the hours and it was sorta slow so it was also boring. We got a complaint from dispatch that he would often ask other drivers to take his rides and pass them on. Then we got a complaint from a couple people working overnight in a large business park on the edge of town, about a bus parked in front of an office building there. After investigating the complaint, we found out that the driver had a second overnight job as a custodian cleaning one of the offices in the park. We issued him a written warning (union position) and informed him that he couldn’t double dip.
Yes. More power to them if they can keep them in balance. None of my business. This is the way.
Honestly, I don’t care if some is working 1 job or 30 jobs. So long as they are performing and not working for a competitor or breaching internal data policies.
Yup.
It didn’t end well and had long term impact for them based on the industry. They also lost the deposit they put down on a home.
Many of my employees moonlight or have to work second jobs. Economy is tough!
Yes I did. I personally caught them on the phone with a competitor, working for them and selling using company property and time. Terminated. Plenty of people have second jobs but it’s when it violates our policies that it’s problematic.
Yes, twice in the past 3 years. Full disclosure we would not have cared at all if they were delivering. The big issue was they were both working the same hours at the same time at both jobs.
The first one got caught in an automated audit of who was accessing a certain system, because he had an accessed that system in over 30 days (he would have had access it daily to do his job). He told us he was really only working at our company for benefits because he liked the work better at the startup he was with. He ended up resigning. The other one is a much better story from an HR standpoint. A VP left my company and went to a new company. On his first day at new company, he runs into one of his direct reports from my company. He had been working the same hours at both. Surprisingly when the VP left my company we were already going down the performance improvement path. Since he was literally in another employer’s building when he was supposed to be in meetings with clients at ours, that was it.
I’ve caught someone working their scAmway MLM from their cubicle on company time (helping someone they ‘mentor’ log into their account). I also had someone accept a job and start, only to ghost the following Monday. Come to find out, they never quit their other job, they just took a week of PTO from their regular job to work for us for a week. That one was crazy.
Yes – our senior level sales executive. Ultimately had to terminate because he was working for a competitor (which we don’t allow) and we had some serious concerns he was violating confidentially and sharing company information across both companies (so we likely benefited too in some ways but ultimately too much of a risk).
Still shocked it took a year for him to be caught. I had only started a month before he was caught/terminated and quickly noticed he was often unreachable / missed meetings / said things that didn’t quite make sense (was clearly talking about the other company with our team without realizing it). It was just sloppy and I think he only got away with it for so long because the leadership team of our company was pretty apathetic and at times derelict in basic duties of leadership (I nopped out of there in less than a year for related reasons).
So I guess my advice if you want to try to do something like this is find a company with a pretty shoddy leadership team and they won’t notice / won’t have the guts to say anything if they do?
Yes, at my former company. We were a nursing home connected to a hospital. One of our maintenance staff was working for us and the hospital at the same time. He would clock into both and walk back and forth between the two. It wasn’t uncommon for staff members to walk between the nursing home and hospital so at first we didn’t think anything of it. Once his performance started to tank we questioned him and he came clean. He was fired with us but still held his job at the hospital.
Shortly after I onboarded, one of our hiring managers became convinced an employee of ours was “double dipping” with two full time, W2 roles. He claims someone told him that this employee had told them and even showed them proof.
HM became obsessive and started harassing the employee every chance he got. He’d send him random, “surprise” meeting invites, he asked if we could require him to be on camera all day (remote company), and he even, repeatedly asked if we could purchase some kind of software that would allow him to view the employee’s screen activity. Employee never missed a meeting or email and was getting rave reviews from his colleagues about how knowledgeable and helpful he was, so we did nothing and told the HM if he could get hard proof, we’d consider acting.
The employee that initially “warned” HM claimed they had no knowledge of such things when we reached out to them, and the employee himself obviously denied it. We never really found out “the truth,” but we did find out what happens when your star employee quits with no notice because he feels attacked/under-appreciated. HM says his resignation was just proof he was double-dipping, but nobody cared once all his work fell onto their plates overnight.
Personally, especially considering how loosely our contracts are written, I now have a strictly product-oriented mindset. Are they meeting deadlines, getting on well with coworkers, and consistently reachable/helpful? Awesome. That’s all I need.
Actually the HR Director at my former company did this. Still pissed off about it to this day considering she would’ve axed anyone she caught doing it and she also got an insane stock windfall at the new company within 2 months.
Yes and you’d be surprised at how many of them get caught by bragging about having multiple WFH jobs on social media!
Just once. It was an employee who had resigned and was working both while he served out a longer notice period. Because we needed him to transition and he unfortunately over the years was awful at documentation, we let it slide, but when he asked to retract his resignation, we did not allow him to (we had already backfilled and had no role for him).
Yeah, we caught two people that I remember and fired both. The first we fired because they were working on the second job when they were on the clock for us and on our the company laptop we supplied them. They were denied unemployment as well IIRC.
Second one we fired as they had started their own business and one of our main competitors was their client. Was also working the other job on our time using our equipment.
I have 2 jobs
Do you mean someone working 2 full time 9-5s or just someone that has 2 jobs?