#JobSearch #DataAnalytics #Discrimination #CareerOpportunities #MentalHealth
Hey everyone, let’s talk about the massive disappointment in the US market for job seekers, especially those facing discrimination and hardships like our friend in Chicago. It’s disheartening to hear about their struggles and the challenges they’ve been facing in their job search journey.
Here are a few thoughts and possible solutions to consider:
🔍 Utilize job search platforms that focus on diversity and inclusion to increase your chances of finding a supportive workplace.
🤝 Network with professionals in your field who may be able to provide insights, connections, and opportunities that aren’t always advertised.
📚 Consider furthering your education or certifications to stand out in a competitive job market and showcase your dedication to continuous learning.
💼 Explore remote job opportunities or freelance projects to gain experience and build a strong portfolio while navigating tumultuous job market conditions.
Let’s support each other, share resources, and advice to uplift those who are struggling to find their place in the workforce. What are some tips or experiences you can share to help others in similar situations? Let’s create a supportive and informative discussion to empower each other in our career journeys!
> Looks like I will be use my “American-ized” name
Very real. Even happens with names that are, technically, very American. Don’t let anyone gaslight you into believing that you didn’t see what you know you saw.
Hi there was a very nasty comment made by someone. I am glad it is gone. I wrote my response after reading that. Here it goes :
One needs to be careful here. There will always be someone who would have would be harboring resentment against your ethnicity on online forums. Whatever it might be, there will always be that one guy who would express it indirectly. So while posting, try and not disclose your nationality, ethnicity or anything that could identify you. Intolerant people with unresolved mental issues will vent it out in you in such a manner that you can tell why they did that but you won’t be able to hold them accountable. Discrimination is very real and is not new. Unless we have the entire hiring process done by AI which demands CVs with no name of the candidate, year they graduated, where they live, what they look like, where they worked, and just skills, I don’t think discrimination would end.. even then certain built in, ingrained biases in that AI would do it’s evil thing, just not so openly.
Despite what ever anecdotal evidence people offer, the statistics show that the job market is stacked against “non-white” and “non-male” names.
Its not you name, its your relationships with managment.
Listing your Masters degree might be hindering your chances, especially if you don’t have any work experience to pair with it.
How did you “tune” your resume?
You’re not getting interviews. That should be your focus. Run your resume through Career Flow AI.
I’m noticing a trend of under appreciation for data analysis at the moment. I think the buzzword of A.I. is hurting the data analysis jobs. This will quickly turn around because A.I. is more reliant on accurate data analysis than anything else but the C-suites aren’t understanding that just yet. Thats probably why an educational institution has been your only hit, they already know.
So don’t get too disheartened, I’ve seen these downturns and I think you’ll be naming your price soon enough.
One suggestion might be to A.I. up your resume if you want to hit on this current trend, data analysis for machine learning will probably get you farther than straight data analysis. (Also yes I know this is stupid but it’s amazing how dumb hiring techniques still are)
Also putting something like that in your resume can allow you to pounce if they mention A.I. and go off about how the difference between successful A.I. implementation and a dumb database spouting nonsense is accurate data analysis.
100 years ago, I was a recruiter. When folks emailed resumes to me, I would print them out, white-out the names, and send the nameless copies to the hiring manager. The bigoted managers hated it but the rest were cool with it.
Data Science is super saturated… its not just you that cant find a job in this field
Hey. Please message me. I am a DS and I might have an opening within my team.
Based on everything I have seen you my life, having a non-American sounding name is possibly even an advantage in STEM fields.
There have been mass layoffs in the field you are trying to enter, which flooded the talent pool. Furthermore, everyone has concerned about AI stealing creative jobs because it makes a fun headline article when Sora spits out a shitty video. But in actuality, statical analysis is what current AI systems are great at. Every major employer is working to develop AI to do these jobs. Management consulting firms are already cutting their yearly hiring of fresh MBA graduates.
It’s a shitty job market for people in your field, not racism.
For analytics, what I’ve heard is that educational background doesn’t matter(as long as they have a degree) and they only care about experience. Name discrimination is a real thing. There have been numerous studies done on this. That’s why you should always use a ‘white’ name. If people ask, tell them it’s your nickname. As for the DS job market, it’s actually nuts how competitive it is now. I feel like anyone that has less than 5 years of experience is shut out of the market completely.
Sorry dude.. Its rough out there no matter what your name is or isn’t. Maybe look in California ? We have a lot of arabs here and no one cares if you think that is what is stopping you. Having PTSD from a job is real 🙁 I am so sorry you went through that. You made the right choice to leave. It might take a while to get a job, but its better than what happens the longer you are in that environment.
I have a very similar background to you also in Chicago, although I’m older now. I found that the absolute hardest time to get a new job was when I had 3 years’ experience.
I didn’t want entry level roles (and was overqualified), but the next step up was 3-5 years and I was at the bare minimum.
I applied to hundreds of roles and it was really depressing, but eventually I got one that turned out just fine!
You’ll get there, just keep at it. Feel free to PM me if you want more specific advice or ideas.
Read the “Emily and Greg” study on name discrimination. It’s pretty famous. So yeah it’s not unlikely that it’s happening.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w9873
What is a Palestinian origination name? Judea? Samaria?
In the analytics / data science world, so many come from places other than the US that it is not anything as much a “thing” to have a foreign sounding name. It is the norm. But many people with complicated/foreign sounding names have definitely Americanized their first names post-WW II, as human nature being what it is, employers subconsciously may assume that you do not speak “good” English and they need someone who can communicate clearly with clients. Coming from a foreign background myself, I cannot tell you how many Johns and Jacks with ethnic last names there were, and it bothered none of them – business is business.
You are looking for some sort of set, clear, definitive, absolute, inarguable reason why you are not making progress, raging against the machine like there is a conspiracy. The truth is that right now, there is a huge surplus of data scientists applying for every role that comes up. Many firms over-hired, fueling even more aspirants to pursue degrees and enter the marketplace, and it has come to a head. Firms suddenly let go of unimaginable thousands of data scientists and analysts, and the market simply cannot absorb them. There is talent galore with no place to go, and it looks like this will bleed into 2025. Many now defer jumping ship for fear of not landing.
So instead of looking for reasons, you have to keep pushing. And since most jobs come via some type of networking, yes you must network and network and network until you collapse. And then get up again and network and network and network. I’m sorry you jumped out of the frying plan into the fire, but it is a waste playing the blame game. Good luck.