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I’m glad you saw through them, what a bunch of wankers.
>once the project starts generating money down the line, I will be backpayed the difference and given a higher salary as well
Yeah, right. More likely when you got it to that point and remind them they’d have a sudden bout of amnesia and not recall that part of the conversation, and if you had it in writing you’d be fired before they have to uphold their part of the bargain.
Their audacity and stupidity is incomprehensible. Well done OP for calling out the BS and walking. Wishing you land something at a place that treats you with respect and appreciation.
Take unemployment – this is a constructed dismissal if I’ve ever heard of one. 50% pay cut for the same job…BS, they have terminated your position…
Counter offer that if in one years time you’ve not had the back pay, your missing pay is made up by the personal accounts of those on the call.
> Then they were like okay, how about you consult for a few days a week? I said why would I consult for a job I was doing full time.
That’s when you name your price: $250/hr with a 4 hour minimum each day you consult. If they want you to consult, they will pay it.
Woof. They totally thought you drank the corporate juice on that one. Good call
Could you have asked for Stock in the compant, would you have accepted that.
That’s a demotion with extra steps
Apply for unemployment. Decreasing your salary is constructive dismissal.
>they need to reduce my salary by 50% in order to afford building this Gen AI project. And once the project starts generating money down the line, I will be backpayed the difference and given a higher salary as well. They asked me to think about it and come back.
Obviously you know this, but the quiet bit they didn’t say out loud, was that if the project turned out not to be profitable (or profitable enough) you would never have been backpaid the difference. They were basically asking you to invest in/gamble on their project.
And thats best case scenario.
I think I was about 22 when I realised that future promises mean squat. I care about the pay offered today.
The end but was a bad move. If they needed you as a consultant you could have e basically named you price and got the same or more money for less work
I will cut my head if they do compensate you. I ensure to you 5000% if you accept the offer there will be no increase in the future even the project will become much profitable. The 50% cut will stay forever. They will create bureaucratic process even for a 1% increase
Haha this was a promotion? Do they pay now with thank you notes these days.
That’s not ‘borderline’ unethical. That is full bore, complete and utter bullshit unethical. Good for you for bouncing.
My boss tried to get me to be his assistant production manager he now is the production manager. Basically he told me it would be a favor to be his assistant… I said no thanks not without a raise and an actual title change… Neither he wanted to give so screw him!
What did they reply?
Good. Fuck them and they clearly don’t appreciate you. Im a senior dev who happens to be good with people. So I do amazing tech work and people like working for me, a rare combo in my company. My bosses offered me a promotion to full management, with a 10% raise but obviously id be expected to work 60-80hrs a week. I couldn’t stop laughing. They got mad, hired a yes man manager who isn’t good with people or technology, told everyone to listen to him and not me. So a year later, I’m just doing technical work 40hrs a week enjoying life and everyone else is miserable and in fighting and the new guy lies to everyone. The people who offered me the 80hr a week job told me they probably should have done things differently. Probably……
It’s amazing how disconnected people can be at recognizing where the real work is and how to actually reward it.
>Then suddenly, 3 days back, they called me on a call and said I’m doing an amazing job but they need to reduce my salary by 50% in order to afford building this Gen AI project.
This is either a patent lie, or they’re in *dire* financial straits. That’s capital budget, and they’re cutting salary for it? Not a good sign at all.
Question. Did you use all of your PTO before leaving. The better play is to accept their offer. Use up all PTO over the next month. If you have 8 days left get sick for a who week. Tell them you have Covid. Then go back mon-wed and do literally no work. Call off thurs Friday just can’t shake this Covid fatigue. Go back mon tues. Take off Wednesday. Go to work Thursday and Friday and just quit without notice Friday after noon
Meanwhile. You get a job lined up during your PTO
Meanwhile. Any spreadsheets you created for this job. Don’t delete them. Just fuck with 6-7 equations on each one rendering them useless
Lol they want you to take on the same risks as the business owners? That’s not what employment is unless you explicitly agree to it in a startup environment. Why not just cut out the middle man and create a project that will pay you directly?
I would have laughed in their faces and ask if they are crazy. That is unhinged
From a resource provisioning perspective, I would build a smaller team around you and use the experienced payroll savings to fund YOU…all with the now reasonable expectation that this will take a little longer.
It appears they thought they could trade on your passion for the work for THEIR cash.
If they cannot afford to pay someone for their skills and labour then it’s not a viable business.
I don’t see how they found that even remotely acceptable. I hope you filed it as constructive dismissal and got unemployment too.
Dude they wanted you to consult! Fuck a clean break charge them 300% what your current pay was as your consultation fee lol
The only caveat you can get on this is if you can get an airtight contract written up, legally ensuring this, and you think it has possibly to a winner and can afford it. Go for it
Honestly OP, keep the “consult” card in your pocket. If you have valuable knowledge of the product/project then if they come back make up some crazy hourly fee with a set minimum hours regardless if you do it quicker. Hit them in the pocketbook.
Also, would have loved you to say, “well, why don’t the owners take a 50% pay cut because I’m going to be generating their income and they can wait until it’s profitable for backpay”.
I wouldn’t want someone stupid enough to accept this to lead any project. Great auto quit
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