What makes the USA disliked in Australia? πΊπΈπ¦πΊ
#US #Australia #dislike #influence #relationship #perception
Have you ever wondered why there seems to be a dislike towards the USA in Australia? π§ Let’s delve into this topic to uncover the possible reasons behind this sentiment.
### Observations in the Australian Subreddit
While browsing the Australian subreddit, a discussion caught my attention regarding Australian tourists who vanished in Baja. The discourse took a turn towards negative sentiments towards Mexico, with comparisons made to the USA. Curiously, many individuals expressed reluctance to visit Mexico, but some even claimed they would not willingly visit the USA.
### Puzzling Disdain from a Mexican Perspective
As a Mexican, I find the Australian animosity towards the USA perplexing. Considering the geographical distance and distinct cultural backgrounds of both countries, it’s akin to if the Philippines harbored resentment towards Mexico without apparent cause.
### Unpacking the Influence of the USA on Australia
Given the prevailing negative attitudes towards the USA in Australia, one cannot help but question the source of this deep-seated dislike. Has the USA exerted a significant influence on Australia that has fueled such vehement antipathy?
Let’s explore the underlying factors contributing to this sentiment and uncover the complexities of the relationship between the USA and Australia. The dynamics at play may reveal intriguing insights into the perceptions and interactions between these two nations.
When I was studying there it was US students that tended to be disliked. Because they came over to study abroad, partied and got drunk every weekend and tended to puke in the common bathroom without cleaning up. Great. A lot of them just totally exploited the legal drinking age. Some were just like regular students though.
Some of the reasons I’ve heard:
* They don’t like being part of five eyes and think the US is spying on them all and reporting to the Aus government about their activities.
* They got rid of their guns and think America should do it too.
* General stereotypes about how we’re loud and obnoxious, and also fat.
Note that there is some truth to all of these, so take it how you will.
Years ago I attended a school in Canada which had a large international student body which included Australians. I became friends with one who told me that Australians (this was the early ’00s) tended to think Americans were smug and that they ruled the world. It wasn’t really hate, but it was a sense of annoyance and frustration that the Australians had towards Americans.
Every Aussie Iβve met IRL is cool w/ Americans so idk where this comes from
The US is an amalgamate of interesting ideas, theory, and outcomes. There are millions of reasons why people hate on it, and why its idealized. You can spend a life time following the threads up and down the river trying to figure out what the deal is when ppl shit on it if you wanted.
In modern times, though, I think there are two reasons ppl shit on the US now. Reason one is how we have an incredibly open history of racism that we are actively trying to mend. On the flip side there’s a ton of pushback as the US has consistent people pushing towards fascism tendencies over simply attempting to meet halfway and actually consider other sides of issues. Yet the nation has tons of people actively talking about, aware of, and discussing this trend.
Is that not super interesting? The people that hear about it but don’t think about it deeper than this aspect of the issues that arise miss that entire part, of how vocal people are in the US about everything. It makes it easy to sling shit at a nation that lets everyone in on their darker sides, when many nations also have those same dark sides but are great at pretending they dont exist in the first place.
As a Canadian that visits the US frequently, I’ve never felt unsafe nor unwanted. I’ve been to red states and blue states, big cities and small. The people (white, black, hispanic) have always been friendly and gracious.
Sibling rivalry
Idk, but this reminded me of a time when I was playing World of Warcraft on an Australian server and I joined a guild and started chatting with the people online. They asked where I was from and I asked them the same, I was US and they were Australia. Then we got started talking about TV and they asked what shows I liked and I said I was a fan of The Simpsons and asked if it aired in Australia. Apparently that question was completely unreasonable because they went berserk and went on a tirade about how “Americans think all of Australia is like Crocodile Dundee and every Australian must be Steve Irwin running around the outback grabbing snakes and wrestling crocodiles, of course they had the Simpsons why wouldn’t they is it because I thought they were less civilized blah blah blah.” I tried to apologize and explain that I was sure there were popular shows in Australia that weren’t popular here and therefore weren’t broadcast and vice versa so I didn’t want to assume anything, but they just kept going on and on about how Americans always assume this and that. I ended up just deleting the whole character after that lol
I visited Brisbane in 1992. I kept getting asked if I was Canadian. No, I’m American. Finally I asked why ppl keep guessing Canada. I was told because ‘Canadians get offended if you ask if they’re American.” So that informed me of Canadians view of us. Then one day I checked in to an inn and was asked by the inn keeper wasn’t I afraid to live in America with all the violence? No, it’s only like that in small pockets, I replied, it’s not like that in the whole country. Next day all the front page news was coverage of the LA riots with shocking pictures. Looked exactly like what the inn keeper and all the other Aussies pictured in their heads when thinking of America. sigh
We were on a tour with some Australians (we are Americans), and one of the Australian wives sort of latched on to us. She was great fun, and we enjoyed being with her, but her husband hung back and looked sullen the entire trip. Five days later, when the trip was ending, he came up to me and sort of half-ass apologized. He said that he hated all Americans (even though we were the first ones he had personally interacted with). However, he had observed that I “wasn’t too bad.” Hating someone because of their country of origin is a concept I can’t grasp no matter how hard I try. So much for international relations.
American here and I like Australia even if it doesn’t like me.
We are?? Dammit. It’s election season in the US. I was just about to apply for my Emotional Support Australian to get me through November ππππ
Had two Aussie friends travel here for the American Staffordshire Terrier nationals. Once the show was over they came home with me and we spent days bebopping around Chicago, before they traveled to visit Canada. Bought ’em milkshakes at Oberweiss (they couldn’t get past the whipped cream, it is truly orgasmic) and for the win, Chicago style pizza (Giordanos) and Chicago style hotdogs (Portillos). In exchange, they gave me their empty ciggie packs. Which contain a picture of each disease directly relatable to smoking, and my fave was the black lungs. I wanted to collect the whole series. And dayum, their cigarettes are SUPER expensive so they were having a ball buying American Spirit. Everyone I know in Australia, which I know through the dogs, has always been really nice and cool. And whenever I call, the husband yells to the wife “It’s the Yank!” If I could leave my dogs (I have a few) I would love to visit Australia. With the caveat I do NOT want to meet any of their spiders, snakes, crocodiles or sharks.
Because we make the mistake of calling the girls over there Sheila’s
Americano repliers bringing the whole ‘Don Draper “I don’t even think about you at all” butthurt toward Ginsberg’ energy
Five eyers need to stick together and support one another
As a Canadian I can say every Australian I’ve met has many condescending things to say about Canada. In regards to USA, just wait until China shows any aggression how quickly Australians love America ππ
We hate America for a hell of a lot of reasons, however Iβd say the biggest and most valid reason is that we are a US puppet country.
We have a giant CIA base in the middle of our desert in which only Americans are allowed to work internally (Australians can be guards outside etc.) and the US *quite literally* removed a prime minister (Gough Whitlam) because he wanted to get the yankee spy bullshit out of Australia and be independent.
We also think America is a gun-loving, school-shooter-ridden hypocritical disaster of a country that is the prime example of whatβs wrong with modern politics, capitalism, & materialism.
They also start completely unnecessary wars and fund terrorism π€·ββοΈ
They look at our crime and assume it’s like that all over.
Probably that Simpsons episode that made fun of their big beers and Chazzwazzers. Iβd be mad if I was them.
Itβs the cool kid thing to do on the internet.
Iβve been to Australia three times in the last six years. Iβve never met an Australian who didnβt like Americans. Iβm sure they exist but I did not have a negative interaction.
As an Aussie, I know a lot of us view America as chaotic, violent, and chock full of guns, which is a scary combo. As for why some of us might view Mexico similarly, I reckon that’s just cause they’re geographically close, and Aussies assume that means more similarities than it actually does.
We don’t even like the US in the US
Every ridiculous way that the US has gone to they have used Aussies as cannon fodder.
We still look up to you as the annoying violent big brother that we love but bosses us around. There’s no Earth mum to complain to so people complain online
As an Australian living in Mexico most of the distrust is from how the US portrays Mexico so not Mexico itself
With the US itβs random mass shootings, gun legislation & crime also their healthcare being so expensive
That said most Australians donβt consider LA, Hawaii or NYC the US
Idk, but I do know that I’ve lived in the USA my entire life and I’m not liking it very much since the right-wing started to mimic the philosophy of the Taliban.
Idk, but I do know that I’ve lived in the USA my entire life and I’m not liking it very much since the right-wing went all Christian fundamentalist.
It is usually the big noisy crowd that stirs up trouble. The big “Second Amendment” or “We are super proud Americans and we hate liberals” groups that are being pushed on social media.
To be honest, most Americans are kind and friendly people. I am lucky I met a few good yanks in California, but it was probably the Californians who are the kindest bunch of Americans. If I went to Carolina or Texas, people might be different and more prideful guns ablazing.
I travelled in Australia 20 years ago and to be honest, the majority of US travellers we encountered were loud, rude, entitled, or just dumb. We did meet some nice US ppl and down-to-earth types.
But generally they always took up more space than anyone else (physically and in conversation). Youβd show up at a hostel or restaurant or bar and there would be staff complaining about how βthese Americans were in here, and left a mess, or said this or started a fight.)
We had an American try and convince us that Canada wasnβt a country, it was a state, had a different American couple ask us what we do in the winter for heat, and a different person ask us how we βspeak American so good if yer from Canadaβ.
It might not be America or Americans as a whole, but rather American tourists in Australiaβ¦
Gough Whitlam was dismissed as prime minister because he tried to remove Pine Gap a secret US military base from our country.
THE USA REMOVED OUR DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADER.
Our foreign policy since the Second Vietnam War in the 1970s was been determined by the USA.
If the USA goes to war we go to war, example Operation Desert Storm in 1991 was a joint coalition of over 70 countries. But in 2003 most of those countries refused to participate in the Invasion of Iraq due to the lack of evidence of WMDs and real threat from Suddam Hussein, Australia still went though.
Today if the USA wants to put a base in Australia we have to capitulate and there is nothing we can do about it.
This power over our country over the last 50 years has had a negative effect with our relationship with our neighbouring countries in the Oceania region and beyond, and has cause the introduction of policies which go against our better judgment.
Two years ago Australia ended a decade long contract with France over submarines due to pressure from the USA to buy theirs, this cost us half a billion dollars just to pay off the French company and caused a massive stir nationally on where we buying our arms from and received a lot of scrutiny from the public, arguably influencing a party change at the next election.
I didnβt know we were. Just to be clear, fewer than half of us (shrinking daily) are Trump supporters.