#WorkLifeBalance #PersonalTime #CompanyExpectations
Can we talk about companies feeling entitled to the usage of our personal phones and time? 📱⌚️
So, I started a new job today and they’re already trying to push me to put work apps on my personal phone. 😒 Here’s a snippet of how that conversation went down:
– Company: “What happens if we need you after hours?”
– Me: “You can wait until the next business day. Work/life balance is important to me.”
But the HR lady wasn’t too pleased with my response. 🤷♀️
I believe that work shouldn’t invade our personal lives, and I’m sure many of you feel the same way. Here are some solutions that might help in situations like this:
– Set boundaries with your employer from the get-go
– Look into alternative work devices provided by the company
– Consider negotiating a clear after-hours policy to avoid burnout
What are your thoughts on this? How do you maintain a healthy work-life balance in today’s digital age? Let’s discuss! 💬 #HealthyBoundaries #DigitalAgeBalance
They can supply you with a company phone if they want you to be on call after hours.
Get that all in writing and contact the dept of labor
the only company app i allow on my phone is a MFA tool which does not need permissions. no way in hell that my company can touch my private phone. and that is coming from an IT guy 😉
The downside of putting things like the company outlook on your phone is they have the ability to brick your phone.
You quit (or are fired) and surprise, you find your phone isn’t working as you drive out of the parking lot.
Never put company controlled software on your personal phone.
Fully agree, you want me to have a phone provide ityou want me OOH then pay me for standby and pay me more for any time spent working…
Work wanted teams and outlook on my phone.
Then they wanted antivirus / VPN / keyprotect software on it (company controlled).
At which point I uninstalled teams & outlook and told them if they want that on a phone, they provide the phone.
I have a company phone, only use it for work purposes, and leave it in the office overnight and at weekends with my work laptop. It hasn’t become an issue yet, but I’m waiting for something to happen to prompt the conversation. I have nothing that states I am required to be contactable at all times, and if my boss tries to make me keep work stuff on me outside of work hours we will have a discussion with HR about an increase in pay to reflect the increase in responsibilities.
Never put work apps on your personal phone! Opens you up to company surveillance AND opens company data up to security risk.
Tell them they can call you if they are ready to pay per minute. Consulting is not free.
Lack of unions. Making every labor protection a communist conspiracy.
Look at other well developed counties and see if they can do that.
My company has sensitive data. They also allow usage of personal devices if you comply with their data protection policy. If you comply with data protection policy they can take your phone in the event you receive data you’re not supposed to receive.
Last time there was a data spill they took the phones and laptops of everyone who received it so they could scrub them. My colleagues were without their personal phones for a week.
Guess who only has an authenticator on his phone 😄
Take my laptop, bfd, it’s yours anyway. But gtfo of here with the request to look at my personal one.
Those apps can be for your convenience, too, especially if you are WFH.
Nope. I work as a Hospice nurse, they had to give me devices and even then they go into do not disturb mode between 5pm-8am M-F…. we have an on call for a reason.
If it’s required for work. Provide me with a company phone. Or pay for my phones service. Not that I’d accept their requirements on my phone anyway. Just to provide them with unacceptable options.
Fyi, even if it is on your phone. It doesn’t mean you need to respond after hours.
The only reason I have TEAMs on my phone, is so when I’m working from home, I will show as “available” at 9am, despite still being in bed until like 9.30am to 10am.
Yep. I’m lucky enough now to work for companies that respect work life balance, but I’ve told companies before that if you want to use my phone, you need to directly pay for it.
Will my compensation be increasing due to me being on call 24/7?
“I’m sorry my phone cannot install the X apps. I am available from 8 AM to 5 PM each work day.” You could mention they can pay for a company phone and how your pay will need to be adjusted if you’re going to be on call or to perform after hours work.
They really really just want slaves. It’s obvious from their attitude.
This is what the entire social justice movement was about in the first place, and our own apathy has allowed them to gain ground with time.
Back in the day of landlines and no cellphones… we had more control and power of our time
I have Outlook and Teams loaded on a separate user profile on my phone. I switch, check messages, send an email or whatever, then restart back to primary profile.
The problem is not enough people push back.
I have an MFA program, but that’s it. Teams are and Outlook used for work? That’s what the work supplied PC is for.
Were they to supply a company cell, it would be turned off during non-work hours.
Boundaries are a thing. If they want work software on a device, they can supply the device.
One of my coworkers let them install corporate software on their cell. It gave itself full permissions, disabled some of their personal apps, and totally screwed up the phone. Instead of telling them to fix it, they ended up buying a new phone and refused the company software.
Get one of those old Motorola flip phones and tell them they could put Outlook on that 🤣
Never use your personal devices (phone, computer, pad, etc) for work; ever. Ask for a company provided device, and set boundaries for it’s use (9-5, off on vacations, on-call pay, etc.)
# And remember: Company provided devices (including vehicles) can contain always-on tracking, surveillance, and usage monitoring. Get a Faraday cage for storage, or leave them in the office. NEVER use them for personal work, EVER.
This is why I love my Linux phone. “Sorry, my phone is not an iPhone nor an Android, those apps aren’t going to work. But if you provide me a company phone, I’d be happy to install those apps!”
My company gives us a cell phone stipend and I still refuse to put the apps on my phone. If a scenario arises when I have to put them on my phone, I immediately take them off after the scenario is over.
The company I work for wanted me to add apps to my phone. I refused so they were like, “here’s a phone to run our janky 3rd party software and we expect you to use it”. So I do. When I’m at work. That phone has never left the site and I have never brought it home.